How to undertake meaningful anti-racism work: an interview with Third Sector Magazine

Our CEO, Joy Warmington, recently spoke to Third Sector magazine for an interview and podcast about anti-racism in the charity sector.

You can listen to the podcast here:

In the conversation, Joy talked about why charities need to keep anti-racism high on the agenda if they want to deliver services fairly and reduce harm.

She pointed out that applying an anti-racist lens is not always as difficult as organisations imagine. Sometimes the challenge is simply that we have not practised doing it - it's a muscle we haven’t exercised enough.

Joy also spoke about why anti-racism has to remain central to organisations that are serious about equity. If charities are trying to create fairer outcomes and reduce harm, it is difficult to see anti-racism as something separate from the main work.

She also challenged the idea that racism only appears in obvious or extreme forms. Too often, racism is imagined as something that happens “out there”, in public or moments of visible hostility. But the harm of racism can also be ongoing, routine and cumulative.

Joy described this as being like a “dripping tap”: a pattern of harm that falls unevenly on people racialised as Black or brown, and on others with racialised protected characteristics.

That point feels especially important for charities. Many organisations in the sector are motivated by social justice, care, and public benefit. But good intentions do not automatically prevent exclusion or harm. Anti-racism means building the practice of asking better questions, listening more carefully, and being prepared to change how things are done.

You can read the full Third Sector article here.

And listen to the full podcast here.